Negociación #20260219

Please stop calling and leaving voicemails, we're trying to talk to you here!

Sorry, I'm a bit lost… this list is a lot. What am I supposed to understand from it? Are you saying you have ALL of these files? There's no way.

We have all the data from this file tree. We are waiting for a list of 10 file names from you today.

We need more time than just today to look through this list. We're actively reviewing it, but might need till Monday or so to get back to you with some names.

We realized that you have begun to stall for time. We have put you on a timer on our website, you can find your name as Pl... Coo..., your data will be published within 24 hours.

We'll have some file names for you later today. The threats are not necessary. If you publish our data in 24 hours then why would we continue talking with you? What do you even want from us? You haven't told us anything.

File names below: [redacted].xlsx [redacted].xlsx [redacted] [redacted].xlsx [redacted].vcf [redacted].docx [redacted].docx [redacted].docx [redacted].docx [redacted].pdf You never responded to our last message. - If you publish our data in 24 hours then why would we continue talking with you? What do you even want from us? You haven't told us anything.

$1.450.000 USD.

This is quite a lot of information to digest. Please give us the weekend to review the files you provided as well as the details from the screenshots of your previous cases. Regarding the price, I can assure you with absolute certainty that we do not have anything remotely close to $1.4 million dollars to pay you. Even suggesting a price that high borders on insanity- you mentioned a good discount? We will need all the help we can get if we're to agree at all.

We are prepared to offer a 35% discount if we can close the deal by the end of next week. We look forward to hearing from you on Monday. Please remember that you must be in contact with us every day.

Thank you for being patient with us. We appreciate the discount you're willing to offer us, but I imagine you want this resolved sooner than later. Unfortunately, the adjusted price you have provided does not put us in position to where we can make a payment.

If we do not receive offer from you by the end of tomorrow, we will assume that you do not want to end it peacefully. We will publish your data on our website and start contacting your customers and regulators.

So, is that how this works? You set an unreasonably high demand, barely come down, and now you want us to put a number on what we think the data you have is worth? Am I understanding correctly? The value of what you have isn't worth anything to anyone else but us. That said, we don't think it's worth anything close to what you're expecting. Do you have a more reasonable number in mind?

We have assessed your losses in the event of a data leak, the penalties you will face if you decide not to pay us, as well as losses from class action lawsuits, and have presented you with our demands and offered you a discount to encourage you to move faster. All you have done so far is waste time. Our final warning remains in effect; you must make an offer close to ours in order to close the deal this week. If we do not receive an offer from you by the end of today, we will proceed with the worst-case scenario.

Whatever assessment you've made is likely inaccurate. The most important distinction you didn't factor in was that we don't have huge amounts of money to pay out to anyone - that includes to lawsuits and regulators. I understand you want to make as much money as possible but it still doesn't change the constraints we're operating from. We would like to be able to work with you towards a solution that makes sense, a peaceful one – the alternative would be both of us walking away empty handed with time wasted. We would like to avoid that, if possible. So again, I ask...do you have a more reasonable number in mind?

You must understand that nothing will change if you keep asking the same questions. We have given you a new amount and discussed a discount for you with management. We are waiting for your proposals. We want to settle this quickly, but unfortunately you are dragging your feet. We have put you on a timer; you can find yourself under the name P... Coo... In 24 hours, your data will be published if we do not receive any proposals from you.

Okay, lets ask a different question - what is the lowest amount that you'll accept? I've repeatedly explained that we aren't capable of paying anything even close to your asking price, even with the discount. We WANT to cooperate with you - this is not us dragging our feet. This is a genuine attempt to find common ground with you. Do you not see that we want to settle this? Threatening to publish us on your site doesn't improve the situation, it does not get you paid faster. If you want money from us then give us a price we actually have a chance of paying.

If You want to resolve this peacefully, you need to make a reasonable offer close to ours within one hour. You had a week after we said we were waiting for your proposals, but you never made one. We will follow through on our promises and publish your data in full on our website. We will start contacting your clients. We will also contact regulators and relevant media outlets so that your name appears like this when searched on Google (we have attached a screenshot). In other words, we will make every effort to destroy your reputation and will continue to attack it with the aim of not reaching an agreement, but completely destroying it. You have one hour. One attachment • Scanned by Gmail

We have nothing relatively close to the insane demand you're asking for. We've made that clear. You're pulling numbers out of thin air. We can offer you $35,000. This is what we can spare right now. We are open to have a discussion, but if you publish anything then you get nothing from us.

We are waiting for your offer, and we will only begin removing your name and information from our website once we receive it.

We appreciate your offer, but we are unable to accept it at this time. To clarify, We remain open to negotiation and do not consider our initial figure unchangeable. However, given the critical nature of the situation and the value of the data involved, We must emphasize that We do not believe our current ask is unreasonable. We are still interested in reaching an agreement with you, but we cannot settle for something unrealistic for three main reasons: 1. Offering $35.000 to protect the integrity of your company reputation is unacceptable. 2. The amount and quality of the data is so serious , so the leak of such a data set could possibly destroy your reputation . This will have a long term impact on the organization and this can`t cost $35.000 3. A top law firm in the Midwest, with over 300 employees and revenue per lawyer exceeding $150.000, valued its reputation at $35.000. That's ridiculous. In the meantime, as a sign of our willingness to work with you, We are offering an initial discount and lowering our asking price to $690.000 USD We hope you reconsider your approach.

Where are you getting these numbers from? Google or something? Please understand that we want to work with you and we're appreciative of the fact that you are willing to work with us as well. But like I've said before, we just don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars that we can pay you. We're doing the best we can given what we have available. I know to you this may seem like a pittance, but we're truly trying to find some common ground with you. Can you give us through the weekend to see what else we are able to organize?

To prove your willingness to find a peaceful end , you need to take wise step by looking at the situation of your firm wisely. You have had the weekend and more than that to do so. The amount and the quality of the data involved is quite critical that can cause highly severe reputational and financial losses to your firm in case we find no agreement and that will cost much more than the figure We demand and the figure you offered. You will receive claims from individuals, organizations and legal entities for information leakage and breach of contracts, your current deals will be terminated , in other words, you will not be able to make money. Journalists and others will dig into your documents, finding inconsistencies or violations in them. Your organization will lose its reputation, shares will fall in price,and your organization will be forced to close. We have generously and sharply reduced Our demand by 35% to prove Our willingness to work with you , however , from your side We do not see any sensible progress. The gap between Our demand and your offer and the figure you offered itself shows only one thing , and that is , your dignity towards your clients , partners and employees is doubtable. Gathering the sum is solely your concern , stories about not having funds are heard from organizations such as yourself a lot. Your insurance will cover that for you. If We do not receive a reasonable offer close to Our final figure by the end of today, We will set a timer on Our website. Once the timer runs out, We will publish all your data, contact all your employees and clients and inform them about the incident and will make sure you will face unbearable consequences beyond your capabilities to survive.

We do appreciate the "discount" but it doesn't really help when the starting amount you're asking for is so high. Even the current amount you want is greater than any of these "losses" you keep mentioning. We are well aware. That said, we would still prefer to not have anything published or posted by you on your site. We are willing to increase our offer to $70,000. This is double our original offer. This expense will be ours and ours alone, so we need you to understand that much. Please show us your willingness to bring this deal to a close.

We have reviewed your statements and offer and have to emphasize once more that gathering the sum is solely your concern. The consequences We are reminding you of , will indeed cost much more . As We have clarified before , in case We do not meet a mutual path , We will publish your data, contact all your employees and clients and inform them about the incident. They will terminate their contracts with you , in easy words, you will not be able to make any money , also , they will file lawsuits against your firm for failure to employ reasonable security measures under Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act, 15 U.S.C. §. The settlement for this case and the fines to the US government and repairing what you have lost and securing your systems through external cyber specialists will cost much more than the figure We demand and the figure you have offered. Doubling your offer will not help prevent these damages to your organization since your original offer is too low to begin with. To prove Our willingness to meet a mutual path and bring a conclusion to this matter We are sharply lowering Our price to $550.000. Now the ball is in your field, You need to bring a reasonable offer close to Our figure on the table. Note that any offer similar to your last one is unacceptable and this conversation will be considered as wasting time and We will make sure you will face all the consequences We have reminded you of.

Of course gathering the money is our concern, but its not solely our problem. Lets break this down in its most simplistic form. You want money. We want to pay you. You want more money than we can possibly come up with. We are trying our best to accommodate you. All of those consequences, as severe as they may be, does not change the equation. Now we're willing to go to bat for you, well, for the sake of this deal...but we need to have a mutual understanding of our capabilities. We will seek out whatever loans or funding sources necessary to arrive at a mutually acceptable amount...but it MUST be within reason. I must be straight-forward when I say there is no reality where we can secure half a million dollars. Optimistically, we can probably do close to $90,000 on short notice but hundreds of thousands of dollars is just not in the cards. Help us out, we want to pay you and put this behind us.

We have reviewed your offer , however, We are not able to settle for this figure. After a long discussion with Our team, in order to meet a mutual path , We have sharply reduced Our figure to $355.000. This reduction is Our best help to you and is Our final figure. Note that the deal has to be closed next week. Here is the bitcoin address: bc1q90f0eqkwcwtw3u50njhlp8ys0ywsgapnyatgjp

I previously mentioned that hundreds of thousands wasn't possible. You're still asking for an amount that is significantly more than what we're able to offer you. There has to be a lower amount that we can make a deal at. Please, help us out.

You have had enough time to do your internal discussions, take loans or borrow money and bring a reasonable offer on the table, however , We only see stalling for time. We have clarified before that attempts to convince Us that Our demand is not realistic or instead of making progress bringing stories about not having funds is not going to succeed. You are well aware of Our plan of action and what consequences you will face in case we meet no mutual path. A convincing offer should be on the table Today, otherwise your data will be published, all your employees and clients will be informed and you will face all the consequences We have reminded you of. A 12 hour timer has been set. You can find your data on Our website once the timer runs out if there is no agreement.

The only thing stalling this process is the amount you're expecting from us. We can see how much we would be approved for, but we'll likely need more than 12 hours. Pause or remove the timer and I will see what else we can do.

The timer will be removed Only if We receive an offer Today before it runs out. Your data is getting ready to be published.

Look, I just told you that we're applying for a loan and we're going to wait to hear back. There is nothing more we can offer you, at least nothing substantial, until we hear back and I know that won't be today. We can maybe increase another 5k, but like I said we're waiting to hear back regarding anything substantial. Kindly pause or remove the timer and I will message you after I know more. This is in both of our best interest.

As it is clear for you, We are an elite group who've been in this business for a very long time , that means We are well aware of how securing finance works and what your True cap is. You can easily get approval for a couple of hundred thousand to a million dollars in loans. With that being said, adding your background and the amount and the quality of the data involved, We will not settle for any similar figures to the ones you have offered so far whatsoever. To prove Our generosity , We have temporarily paused the timer; however, your post stays on Our website with a part of your name until you make the right decision and bring a realistic offer on the table. But We have to emphasize that We will not wait forever. So to prove to you that you truly want to save your business and bring an end to this matter, you need to speed up the process; otherwise, as We always kept Our word, your data will be published and you will face unbearable consequences beyond your capabilities to survive. An offer must be brought by tomorrow 12 pm Central time.

We're not expecting you to wait forever, but you have to understand that we have a limit to what we can affordably pay. We cannot "easily get approval for a couple of hundred thousand to a million dollars in loans." That is not the case at all. Given the rush, we were only able to get approved for $30,000. Reaching the amount you're still expecting will likely not be possible, so we still you to make some reductions.

We have reviewed your offer, however, We are not settling for this figure. We are ready to give Our final discount and offer , which is , $250.000 . Note that this is Our best help to you and this figure is valid Only in case we close the deal this week.

How do you expect us to double what we have by the end of the week? It's taken this long just to be able to come up with our offer and still you want us to double it in the next few days? Money doesn't grow on trees, you know.

We have given you Our best help by reducing Our figure sharply and that is Our final figure. How much time do you need to make the payment of $250,000 and bring an end to the deal ?

I can't give you a definitively accurate timeline. I would be lying if I did – it could take 1 week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, maybe never if we can't get additional loans to reach the amount you want. The best we can do is try and see what we're able to shake out from different lenders. Are you going to give us the time we need to pursue this?

You will have time until Monday 12 pm central time, otherwise, We will follow Our course of action and it is pretty clear for you what consequences you will face in case of no agreement.

We have not received a response from you and consider this a rejection of a peaceful resolution; nevertheless, we are giving you one more hour to make a decision, and we have also set a timer on the website, after which your data will be automatically published.

One more hour is not enough time. Sorry we haven't messaged you yet, but we're still trying to sort out funding on our end. Any additional discounts from you would be much appreciated. Please stop the timer and let us know.

After a long discussion with Our team, We are ready to give Our final discount, $200,000. This is Our final price and We will not settle for anything lower than that , and this price is valid Only in case we close the deal today.

We really appreciate the discount and we are not opposed to reaching a deal with you; however, we need to determine whether we can secure the necessary financial assistance to reach this amount. We require more than a few hours to make this determination, and therefore respectfully request additional time to obtain the information needed and provide you with an update. We are doing everything possible on our end to move this forward as quickly as we can. We kindly ask for some flexibility from you and your team.

You have had more than enough to do so , more than a month , We cant and will not wait any longer. Our best help was to give you Our final discount, the deal must be closed Today before the end of working day.

That stance doesn't help either of us right now. We're trying to do what you ask but setting a timeline of before the end of the working day just isn't possible. Why can't you wait? Are you not the one in control? Why not let us work towards getting the remaining amount? That way we can pay you and we can avoid all of this messiness.

We need to get specific deadlines from you today.

Will you give me an hour or two to follow up with my team. That way I can give you a clear picture.

2 hours is your last chance, otherwise, We will follow Our course of action , your data is ready to be published in case there will be no agreement.

Okay, here's our status. It's good news this time, all outstanding applications have been processed and are progressing. We've been assured that we'll have an answer regarding approval or rejection in no less than 48 hours and we should know more by Thursday evening at the latest.

Did you get our message? Does that timeline work for you? I just want to make sure you got it.

Yes, we are waiting for an agreement on the amount we have set.

Okay, we are still working on this and waiting to hear back. There was some confusion with our request and we had to resubmit. We are also eagerly waiting on an answer.

We have set clear and specific deadline within which we must reach an agreement; otherwise, We will publish your data, contact every employee of your firm and your clients. We have warned you that attempts to stall for time will not succeed. You have had enough time to do all the necessary steps to bring a conclusion to this matter. The deal must be closed Today, otherwise , We will follow Our course of action.

I don't see how threatening us at this stage is still relevant. You've already mentioned this before, we know exactly what is at stake and we are doing all we can to try and meet your demands. I think that is clear at this point. We're not stalling, we're waiting for the same answers you are. I will try calling our representative directly to see if they have any updates.

Any updates?

We were on the phone with our representative this morning, but they weren't able to provide any new information yet. As soon as we know more, you'll know as well. Please understand that we're not sitting on this, we're actively pressing them for an answer. We just ask for a bit of patience, as their process is out of our hands.

We're still waiting for updates from you.

Today is the last day of our wait.